What do you think of Pastor Rick Warren?

Or. Don't know enough about him to pick one if these.

I think he probably has just as much good to say as Ellen White.

I got to meet both Warren and James McDonald several times. That was one of the perks for playing ball for one of the best evangelical colleges in US. I think if you talked to these people you'd change your mind about many misconceptions about them. I view these people as Doug Batchelors of emergent churches. Although McDonald does not consider himself "emergent"... I think he is very much so.

I honestly think that these people love God, but they were thrown into a position of "celebrity evangelism", which both of them very much embraced. If you ever been to the Harvest Chapel in Chicago... you'd know what I'm talking about. These people honestly try to impact the world for God. They understand fundamentals, yet I think they take a Machiavellian approach of "ends justify the means" along the way. As much as I am all pro talking to the people in language of their own cultural understanding... you can take it too far.

Yet, I've notice my church lately to do exactly the same thing some emergent churches do. The message nowerdays is "hang on there", "Jesus loves you"... aka "tiptoing around the controversial stuff". Some pastors afraid to offend people, and yet I think people are leaving because they are tired of the church being a "psychotherapy session" instead of community who is not afraid to talk about pre-marital sex, pornography, drinking, or masturbation. These subjects hardly come up nowadays, yet these are the subjects that young people struggle the most.

Should that poll even be there?

Whatever the rights and wrongs of Rick Warren, I do not feel that some of those choices are appropriate here.

I don't think so redwood.

pk

You may be right pk. But they both say some strange things.

Some of the choices say more about the member choosing them than they do about Pastor Rick Warren. I did the poll, in part, to poke fun at some of the extreme views we find amongst ourselves in the Adventist church. Personally, I think Pastor Warren, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Chuck Swindwal and so many others are being faithful to the light they have been shown.

Amen

For some it might depend on where the 'light' is coming from.

(opinion of one who lives next door to "focus on sexual lives of others")