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#200362 - 11/14/08 11:47 PM Am i the only one?...
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Who listens to these forbidden rhytms?

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#200365 - 11/15/08 12:26 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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I guess I just did. Thanks! hahaha Just kidding. I'm not sure about forbidden, but I'm not interested in listening to that for more than a minute.

have a great sabbath TS.

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#200367 - 11/15/08 12:35 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: pkrause]
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Boring to me....and the horizon does not look too straight on their picture, either. (unless my aged eyes are deceiving me)

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#200370 - 11/15/08 12:43 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Nan]
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Yes just to repetative, over and over the same all the way through.

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#200371 - 11/15/08 12:43 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Nan]
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Lol, i was expecting conservatives telling me how bad i would suffer in the eternal lake of fire because of my musicstyle.

There is some truth in it though, the rhytms seem to originate from the gentiles. But if the gentiles got it from the devil, maybe it actually originates from heaven. Do you think that in heaven there will also be different kind of music genres? i cannot imagine listening to rock music. I picture heaven very differently than earth, there is probably no industry and we won t be captives of capitalism anymore.

Anyway, i agree that the beginning of the song is a bit dull, it starts getting interested after a minute,

anywaym Nan and Krause have a nice sabbath...
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#200375 - 11/15/08 12:46 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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Actually this musicgenre is part of the Dutch culture, just like rap music is typically American...
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#200376 - 11/15/08 12:52 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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Okay the first video was very dull, but the next song is really one of my favorites. Please give it a try and reconsider your opinion.



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#200434 - 11/15/08 06:36 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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I am reminded of the 80's when I listen to that group.
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#200437 - 11/15/08 06:44 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Amelia]
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Rather boring stuff. It needs some polish to the song to make it listenable -- if there is such a word. Try something different, this stuff is easy to put together because there is little substance to it.
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#200455 - 11/15/08 08:45 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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Earlier Friday morning I listened to a gentleman on 3ABN, who had been through the "dark side" of the music industry prior to surrendering his heart to Jesus. The first musical piece on YouTube sounded much like one of the sensory avenues he described as putting one in the "alpha" state that the prince of darkness finds easiest in his beginning efforts, to capture individuals for his own purposes.

Not all individuals are as susceptible to the same overtures for the beginnings of dedicated rebellion against our Father's
plan of salvation for their life. However in probably 100% of the efforts to dissuade anyone from following a path that leads towards heaven, a steamroller is not used, and what is used can sometimes be seen as having a very beneficial characteristic for one's personal good, a very alluring means of persuasion.

One of my weaknesses comes from a totally different venue, the opportunity to get more than I need of certain goods because such a good deal comes with the more that is purchased. A plausible reason for causing one to go off the deep end seldom
comes by walking straight-off into the pool. The principle is as old as the human race.

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." Genesis 3:6 KJV

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." Philippians 4:8 KJV
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#200457 - 11/15/08 08:50 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: LifeHiscost]
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I've read that some kinds of music bypasses the reasoning and intellect and directly affects the body and the emotions without the person being conscious of it.

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#200470 - 11/15/08 10:32 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: John317]
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I've read that Obama was using hypnotic techniques in his speeches.

Truthseeker, that style is not really my style (I'm more of a heavy metal guy), but I can definitely enjoy it in the right mood. Dutch DJs are famous all over the world, and there's a reason for that!
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#200471 - 11/15/08 10:36 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Bravus]
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Have to admit, I've kept being disappointed over the years. People describe a new style like House as 'just a punding beat with a few electronic beeps and whistles', and it turns out to have all sorts of melody and nonsense. Have to admit, those songs came pretty close to what I'd been waiting to hear for 30 years or so!

Not going to venture into the maze of genres and terms though, to try to name it as trance, house, techno, acid, gabber, garage, jungle, happy hardcore or whatever!
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#200473 - 11/15/08 11:12 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Bravus]
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Hey Bravus i am glad at least somebody is able to understand my style. Indeed trance music these days is being produced at a very sophisticated level. Dutch Dj s make terribly good music. The 80s en 90 s were just the birth of the basic principles. Nowadays it has evolved into heavenly music.

I have heard so many speculations from adventist leaders that are so ridiculous that now i can only laugh about them. According to Walter Veith everybody at a trance party is getting an alpha state of conciousness and then entitiet enter the persons. Also pointing to New Age groups trying to destroy national sovereignty is like a mouse trying to kill an eagle.

Anyway, now i consider it just as free entertainment. I think the real problems lie with the pentecostal churches performing voodoo rituals under the influence of annoying drums. It s got nothing to do with Dutch Trance Music.
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#200487 - 11/15/08 02:26 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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This is the type of music that comes from 'blow 'em up" video games,...at least, that is what it reminds me of....

These video games are where you are in some airplane/spaceship and you have to shoot/blow up the badguys/aliens before they get you....and you are the only hope for the country/world/mankind....

You get the idea....
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#200502 - 11/15/08 04:42 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Neil D]
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Here is a link to a Don Francisco song; an "old time," annointed, gospel singer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5hDZcBJKdY

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#200503 - 11/15/08 04:52 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Servant]
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Originally Posted By: Servant
Here is a link to a Don Francisco song; an "old time," annointed, gospel singer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5hDZcBJKdY


Thanks Servant. That was a good one that I *do* remember! smile
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#200555 - 11/16/08 12:34 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: rudywoofs]
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Okay i think this song applies to everyone...For those that didn t like the first two songs, maybe you like this better...

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#200556 - 11/16/08 12:38 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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Dear Adventist Forum: if ever I need to precisely measure a square, I'll know where to come tongue bwink
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#200561 - 11/16/08 01:07 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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I love the Dolphins TS.

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#200567 - 11/16/08 01:42 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: pkrause]
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You might hate this one, Truthseeker (and I can pretty much *guarantee* everyone else here will), but it's where your music (trance) meets my music (metal):



(The video is made up of game footage from the game Kingdom Hearts, and is not an official video)
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#200585 - 11/16/08 02:40 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Bravus]
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I like the music but don't care too much for the weird lyrics.
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#200610 - 11/16/08 05:31 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Bravus]
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Originally Posted By: Bravus
Dear Adventist Forum: if ever I need to precisely measure a square, I'll know where to come tongue bwink


And if I ever need someone to build my house I'll know who to square me away. reyes
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#200613 - 11/16/08 05:58 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Amelia]
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Originally Posted By: Amelia
I like the music but don't care too much for the weird lyrics.


Maybe this is something you might like. I didn't look at very much so guarantee nothing. smile

http://www.coverpop.com/pop/topcat/
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#200629 - 11/16/08 09:16 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: LifeHiscost]
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I used to be a rave dj in the late 90's early 00's. It was crazy. I used to play up and down the west coast from LA to SF, and was twice flown to Anchorage Alaska on their dime. It was an obsession at the time, and I used to get such a natural "high" from doing it, but then once the night was over, I would slump into a feeling of emptiness. It was very hollow and wasn't fulfilling. I cringe now at how responsible I was for the downfall of many people. The sort've music that guys like Tiesto play, it appeals to the senses, makes you feel like you're in a higher state and makes you feel that everyone who experiences what you're feeling is on the same wavelength and all is well in the world. But it's ultimately not enough to fulfill any permanent longing.

I think a lot of that music has evolved. Nowadays the younger kids are into the electro/housier stuff like Erol Alkan, Justice, Deadmau5 etc. But the effect is the same, and ultimately the result as well...emptiness. I'm not immune to it, it's something I still struggle with. I do know this though, the music we'll hear in heaven will blow anything we've heard on earth away. We'll hear tones and melodies unimaginable to us now. We may even be able to harmonize with our own voices. If I think _________ is an amazing singer here on earth, imagine the voice of an angel, or better yet, God Himself. If I think _______ is a "genius" producer, what about the compositions of angels, or better yet, God Himself.

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#200636 - 11/16/08 11:26 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Sid]
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Originally Posted By: Sid
The sort've music that guys like Tiesto play, it appeals to the senses, makes you feel like you're in a higher state and makes you feel that everyone who experiences what you're feeling is on the same wavelength and all is well in the world. But it's ultimately not enough to fulfill any permanent longing.

what about the compositions of angels, or better yet, God Himself.



Thanks, Sid. The reminder that what we get off on here, at its' best, not only is transitory but won't hold a candle to the Light of the World. And the more time we spend reaching people for Jesus instead of reaching for the transitory, the sooner
we'll reach the eternal high.

"Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God..." 2 Peter 3:11,12 NKJV
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#200637 - 11/16/08 11:27 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Sid]
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Hey Bravus i ll get enough squares 4 you!Actually i like your style too. It s like a heavy version of Linkin Park. I like almost all kinds of music from celtic to gabber.

Hey Sid i don t see anything wrong with being a raver dj, but maybe that s just me. You refer to Tiesto, he is indeed very very good. I see trance music differently than you do. It brings joy in the lives of many and it helps you to forget your problems for a while. It s also a very powerfull tool for physical excercise.

Do you also like the following song?i think it s one of the greatest.

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#200680 - 11/16/08 08:55 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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Originally Posted By: truthseeker007
You refer to Tiesto, he is indeed very very good. I see trance music differently than you do. It brings joy in the lives of many and it helps you to forget your problems for a while. It s also a very powerfull tool for physical excercise.


Tiesto is a big ball of cheese. He's a joke among djs. No one really takes him seriously except maybe clubbers trying to relive their 'glory' days or entry level alts that haven't heard much else. But maybe in another 10 years, he'll be "relevant" again in a post ironic way.

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#200690 - 11/16/08 10:07 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Bravus]
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You really enjoy that? I actually don't mind that as much as the stuff TS had. But I can't imagine listening to that for to long. I never was much into Heavy Metal. I enjoyed rock. But in the last 10-15 years I have not listened to much of that type of music. I prefer christian music now.

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#200696 - 11/16/08 10:34 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: pkrause]
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Different strokes for different folks, of course. I do enjoy Daath very much, where, I have to admit, that Don Francisco track on the previous page had the effect on me of fingernails on a chalkboard.

I guess the difference is that I am happy simply to acknowledge that we all have different tastes. Others seem to have to call on God to guarantee that their tastes are superior...
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#200699 - 11/16/08 10:52 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Bravus]
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agreed! What bothers me is people who are ready to condemn people for the kind of music they like. For me I don't care what you like to listen to. We are all at different place's in our journey's.

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#200718 - 11/17/08 02:44 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: pkrause]
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Can't wait to have a listen to this =D
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#200740 - 11/17/08 09:53 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Coulsty]
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Truthseeker007, you are not alone with your taste of music bwink I personally appreciate every type of music, but my favorites are alternative/rock and techno.

I don't know how to make this come up as a video on here, but this is a powerful song/video that really hit me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uin8Cphh1U - Lyrics are there in more info.
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#200759 - 11/17/08 03:07 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Coulsty]
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Heyy nice song

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#200763 - 11/17/08 04:34 PM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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Btw this song kind of explains how i am feeling...

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#200924 - 11/18/08 07:25 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: truthseeker007]
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#200929 - 11/18/08 07:37 AM Re: Am i the only one?... [Re: Bravus]
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Originally Posted By: Bravus
Others seem to have to call on God to guarantee that their tastes are superior...


lolwut? where did you get that idea?

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